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GBUSA - My Thoughts

So, no suprise but I decided to try to join this RP. I've been looking through the Unions and I am thinking about joining in on what is called Grand Bolivarian Union of South America. I decided to do some fidling on these "districts/regions/states". I've created a map inspired by the United African Initative, it shows 4 regions with a capitol region (I was unsure if a capitol region was nessarssary, but I decided to do it anyway). I'm also making a proposal to change the name of the Union; I'm not saying it's irrelavent, but having Brazil, Argentinia, and Chile, it just doesn't make that much sense. After some hard thinking I came up with the name Grand Union of South Latin America Entities. Just as long as the original name, I find this to make the Union feel more calm and uniting rather then a Bolivarian dictadorship.

Flag:

Heres a flag that I have founded on the internet, I edited a bit to allow most of the South American nation's national colors to be represented on here.

SA Flag
Sadly Peru just wasn't relavent enother to be on the flag, more or less I didn't have enother space to put on it. There was no tri-color for Brazil, so I just striped the modern flag's colors and pasted it on there. I tried to implement some of the national emblems into one. One being the Burgundy cross, representing all of the Spanish colonies. Another being the Brazilian Empire's cross, no real meaning; just looks cool. Finally the Sun of Argentina, as the Sun always rises on Latin America. I couldn't put any of the eagles or stars, but I find this very much appealing to the eye.

Map:

SA
So my idea for the map was to have 4 main regions as well as a capitol region. As I said before, I was inspired by the United African Initative's map. I forgot to color code it so let me explain all the regions, or what I like to call districts:

 Dark Green : Amazon District

 Sand Red : La Plata District

 Purple : Columbia District

 Bronze : Peru District

 Red : Capitol Region

I could go into depth on what each district produces and how in effects the Union overall, but that can be later for the Union page.


In terms of my requests, I would love to be the Amazon District, any sugguestions would be appreciated

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South American economic and political sovereignty (anti-imperialism) Grassroots political participation of the population via popular votes and referendums (Participative democracy) Economic self-sufficiency (in food, consumer durables, etc.) Instilling in people a national ethic of patriotic service Equitable distribution of (South America's) vast natural resources Eliminating corruption

Teachings of bolivarianism. So all of south america is relevant even if it did start in the north.

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I'm sorry, but it's quite hard to read what you have written, more or less copied from Wikipedia. Bolivarianism is very focused on Venezuela, its ideals later went to Ecuador and Bolivia, but only few of the ideas. Besides the point, bolivarianism, is simply a concept. I would say the highest concentration of bolivarianism supporters would be in Columbia District.

On an other note, bolivarianism is a false hope concept. Read up on the bolivarian diaspora, enforcing bolivarianism on the entire continent of South Africa would cause massive emigration

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These districts would honestly only make sense if you had that many players, in the DoTP each player is a governor that controls their own territory, the size of which is determined by the leader of the union based on the sectors that Dj will ultimately give said union and based on what they feel is an acceptable size for each particular governor.

Also, what city is it that you're highlighting as the capital because last I heard it's suppose to be in Brasillia, which personally I think feels weird but w/e up to the GBUSA peeps.

Really if the union were to have its name changed I don't see why you can't just go with USAN or some variation there upon, it's already there after all, but Bolivarianism seems fine.

Edit: Oh, and as interesting as that flag is, burn it with fire.

Texar96 wrote:
"...the principles of flag design, according to the North American Vexillological Association, are:

1. Keep it simple

2. Use meaningful symbolism

3. Use two to three basic colors

4. No lettering or seals of any kind.

5. Be distinctive"

(99%Invisible)

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Well, I kinda based some of the districts off population density. Not complety but for some of them.

Well, I chose Bolivia's capitol, mainly because there is a good amount of Spanish and Portuguess speakers there.

I don't support the original Bolivarianism name, Latin America seems much more defenitive of the culture there.

I'm sorry if this sounds rude but: really a flag rule, that's the most stupidest thing ever. Go and complain about Saint-Pierre and Miquelon flag. Again, sorry if it sounded rude, but's it's true. There are a lot of flags that don't follow these "principles of a good flag."

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TokyoMage wrote:

I don't support the original Bolivarianism name, Latin America seems much more defenitive of the culture there.

I'm sorry if this sounds rude but: really a flag rule, that's the most stupidest thing ever. Go and complain about Saint-Pierre and Miquelon flag. Again, sorry if it sounded rude, but's it's true. There are a lot of flags that don't follow these "principles of a good flag."

Latin America includes Central America too which isn't part of your union and the Guianas aren't part of Latin America but are part of your union.

Please go research vexilology, it's a real field and of course there are flags which don't follow those guidelines - there's bound to be a few bad flags out there after all (See: most US flags, especially the ones with a seal on top of a monocolored field, ussually blue though Washington for example has a green background). Flags are important and it makes perfect sense that their design be kept within reason - that it be symbolic of what it's representing, that it not be overly complicated, that it not require citizens to squint in order to see it; to paraphrase 99% Invisible, 'flags, unlike just about anything else, are designed to be looked at from a distance'.

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Yes you are correct, that's why I named it Grand Union of South Latin America Entities. It represents most of the South American naions.

I did do a little research, and it doesn't really change my opionion of "guidelines to a good flag". I zoomed my computer screen by -50%, I can see mostly everything, the Cross of Burgundy, Cross of Brazil, and the Sun rays, the colors are defined and not too bold, except for the Columbian colors.

lol it'd suck to get an assignment on doing that flag for elementary school.
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MagisterTankus wrote:
lol it'd suck to get an assignment on doing that flag for elementary school.

Color in the flag kiddies.

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